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Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I just started Guild wars today and made a Dervish. So right now after reading the guide above, I came up with this build. But before I put it up, I need to know if it's possible for me to become an assassin as my second profession even though I don't have factions.

Vat Ze Ell · Dec 28, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

No, sorry it's not.

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
Earth Magic Whatever is left
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

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You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by Firzin

Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
Earth Magic Whatever is left
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

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I don't see the benefit of stone striker unless you're playing [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill]

Heck I'm not even sure if those two synergize. Your attributes are fine, just ditch Stone Striker and add something more useful. Also, I'd use [skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill] instead of grenth, unless you're running [skill]eternal aura[/skill] in which case, you're fine.

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant.

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by Firzin

Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant.

Well, when it comes down to that, [skill]avatar of grenth[/skill] < [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill].

I wouldn't use grenth. Duration isn't worth it. Also, instead of stone striker, consider [skill]staggering force[/skill]

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

But then what will be my second prof o_O

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by Firzin

But then what will be my second prof o_O

You're not obligated to use a second profession in all skill bars. Use what will be most effective to your purpose/synergizes with your skills/attributes. If no elementalist skill does that, so be it.

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

So pure Derv is the way to go eh?

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by Firzin

So pure Derv is the way to go eh?

If you're running that build, yeah.

Like I said, use skills that will synergize best. If they're not in your profession, then use a secondary to get them. If skills in your class will do the job better, then use those.

Tyla · Dec 28, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07

I would like to add, go minor runes and only use eight earth prayers

breakpoint for mystic regen is 8 earth prayers and to maintain EDA all the time you only need 9 EP
it would be smart to use a 9/9/12 attribute split with eDA (9 earth prayers, 9 mysticism, 12 scythe mastery)

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

I would like to add, go minor runes and only use eight earth prayers

breakpoint for mystic regen is 8 earth prayers and to maintain EDA all the time you only need 9 EP
it would be smart to use a 9/9/12 attribute split with eDA (9 earth prayers, 9 mysticism, 12 scythe mastery)

/Agreed, 12/9/9 is the way to go. Runes above minor are over rated. Except Vigor.

Fungus Amongus · Dec 28, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Firzin

Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant.

Only one elite at a time my friend.

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Fungus Amongus

Only one elite at a time my friend.

I think he's just displaying what two he's deciding on.

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Yea, I'm gonna stick with EDA, but which other skill should I get... hmmm

Edit= Ok, how about one of these [skill]Test of Faith[/skill] [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill] [skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill] [skill]Conviction[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sandstorm[/skill]

You can't see me · Dec 28, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

[skill]faithful intervention[/skill] no doubt.

Firzin · Dec 28, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

And one last thing, what should I add for runes? and how should I make my weapons to suit this build? Thanks a lot to everyone who answered up till now.

Sirius-NZ · Dec 28, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Ideal weapon would be damage +15% while enchanted (Strength and Honor I think?), zealous, and with either an enchanting or fortitude grip.

Runes... scythe mastery is an obvious one (probably minor, could go with major if you feel like it though), and probably minor earth prayers as well. I don't think you'd be making use of a mysticism rune with that build much...
You'll want a vigor rune for sure - go for as good a rune as you can afford, they don't stack - and the other two runes should probably be Vitae or something.

If I were running this build personally, I'd use Windwalker insignias, but you may want Survivor instead. Or Radiant, if you go that way (might want to consider Attunement runes instead of Vitae in this case, but tbh more energy isn't really much use for drawn-out battles, energy recovery is).

I Phoenix I · Dec 28, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Firzin

Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill]

First, you can't get 3 attributes to 12. It's just not possible. Closest would be an 11-10-10 split.

Second, only 1 elite skill per bar.

Darkside · Dec 28, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

Ideal weapon would be damage +15% while enchanted (Strength and Honor I think?), zealous, and with either an enchanting or fortitude grip.

Guided by Fate actually...

...and definitely go enchanting if your running a lot of enchantments.

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Second, only 1 elite skill per bar.

I think he means either or not 2 or 3 elites on one bar.

Anyway, those builds look ok but I wouldn't use 2 superior runes on one build being in the front line you're gonna get spiked sometimes and having 400 life = death. I personally wouldn't even use one superior rune but if you have your heart set on it just use one ... or two majors but not two superiors yikes. Also avatar of Grenth is pretty useless except maybe in PvP. If you wanna use an Avatar use Dwayna, Lyssa or Melandru...there the only really useful ones.

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Originally Posted by Firzin

And one last thing, what should I add for runes? and how should I make my weapons to suit this build? Thanks a lot to everyone who answered up till now.

If you end up running more then two enchantments windwalkers if only one or two go with blessed; survivor and radiant are also good choices tho.